Reinstating leaded metal casement windows

[CarolineTheChemist]

Does anyone have experience of reinstating historic windows in their listed building who'd like to pass on some advice?

Our conservation builder (who I'd definitely recommend if you're in the Kent/Sussex Weald area) pointed out there's a strong chance our metal casement windows were once leaded with square panes. The metal frames are still in place with the casement hung on a hinge pin, twisted metal window stays and tulip leaf handles, however the casements no longer have the leading. I can also see the little dents where the leaded sections connected to the frames.

They're very similar to the ones on page 10 of this doc:
https://historicengland.org.uk/images-books/publications/traditional-windows-care-repair-upgrading/heag039-traditional-windows-revfeb17/

I was very excited to learn this as the windows have been bugging me since we first saw the house. Something just doesn't look right and I couldn't put my finger on it. To me they look far too modern for a C17 timber framed wealden house.

Here are few photos of the windows in case anyone else can see it too!
https://imgur.com/cilV7Kr
https://imgur.com/vzOFEDz

I'd really like them refurbed and looking more like these:
https://www.instagram.com/p/B3xZcdlJ9xU/

Does anyone have any experience of convincing a CO that older style windows should be reinstated? What worked (or didn't work) for you?

 

[malcolm]

The windows do look horrid to modern tastes - outwardly they look like 1950s replacements. For leaded glass the glazing bar in the middle is normally about 10mm thick and set back from the glass allowing a continuous sheet. The lead in the middle of the window has wires soldered to it that twist around the glazing bar for support. If that's the system you have then definately it should have leaded glass. I have found it cheaper than expected to have leaded glass made and repaired and I love the effect.

I don't have a listed building so others will be able to advise better on how to work with the conservation officer.

 

[Flyfisher]

We have a few windows with leaded lights set into a metal frame. This one is in the C16 part of the house, though I don't believe the windows is original to that time. I'm not really sure how old it is.

 

[CarolineTheChemist]

Those are beautiful windows! I really hope we can get something similar back into ours!

 

[Abi Cott]

Listed Building Consent is not required for repair. If you can sensibly show that those windows were leaded and you are sensitively repairing them then LBC might not be required.

That might be something you could chat about with your CO if they are the talking type.

 

[Gareth Hughes]

Listed Building Consent is not required for repair. If you can sensibly show that those windows were leaded and you are sensitively repairing them then LBC might not be required.

That might be something you could chat about with your CO if they are the talking type.

While it may be a reinstatement of a former arrangement (which was lost how long ago?), the change from the existing 2-light windows to multi-paned leaded windows is undoubtedly a change that affects the character of the building, not a repair, and would need consent.