Personal HIPS experiences - please let us know.

Penners · Post by **Penners** » Sun 29th Jul, 2007 6:58 pm

Just a reminder that HIPS are about to become an awful reality for 4+ bedroom houses. Do encourage anyone who experiences them, either as a buyer or a seller, to report their impressions here.

Mind you, are there are any 4-bedroom houses left? Or have they all suddenly become 3 bedroom/1 boxroom houses?

Nemesis · Post by **Nemesis** » Mon 30th Jul, 2007 7:30 pm

EPC troubles:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jh ... ips129.xml

Penners · Post by **Penners** » Tue 31st Jul, 2007 4:39 pm

That's an interesting article, because it covers exactly the point that I've been banging on about, as regards EPC's. How does the energy inspector know that a timberframe house like mine has (a) rockwool insulation between the inner lining and the outer rendering, and (b) insulation batts under the pamment floors?

Nemesis · Post by **Nemesis** » Tue 31st Jul, 2007 5:57 pm

Crystal ball... or is at all just balls?

Moo · Post by **Moo** » Wed 1st Aug, 2007 8:27 am

On the other hand, one could claim all sorts of eco-friendly but invisible things. Short of pulling the place to pieces, how on earth could they disprove it?

Nemesis · Post by **Nemesis** » Wed 1st Aug, 2007 8:49 am

Exactly! It's all barking - but has to be paid for!

Penners · Post by **Penners** » Wed 1st Aug, 2007 9:51 am

Moo wrote:On the other hand, one could claim all sorts of eco-friendly but invisible things. Short of pulling the place to pieces, how on earth could they disprove it?

I wonder what the policy on this will be. Will the inspector take the homeowner's word for it, or just dismiss anything that he/she can't personally verify?

Nemesis · Post by **Nemesis** » Thu 9th Aug, 2007 12:46 pm

The latest:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6938481.stm

Penners · Post by **Penners** » Thu 9th Aug, 2007 4:21 pm

That report seems to use all the right phrases: "shocking indictment", "ill thought out", "fundamentally flawed", "haphazard and botched".

Fred Karno for PM, I say.

On my point above, I was at dinner with friends the other night, and found myself talking to a Chartered Surveyor. He said that, for the Energy Report, the homeowner's word will be taken over details that cannot be seen.

So, I'm glad to report that my house has the highest standards of insulation built in under the floor, in the walls, etc. It also has special carbon absorbing mechanisms built into it, so it is in fact carbon negative.

:innocent whistle:
:growing nose:

Nemesis · Post by **Nemesis** » Mon 13th Aug, 2007 8:40 pm

Profession???

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jh ... ips112.xml

Penners · Post by **Penners** » Tue 14th Aug, 2007 12:41 pm

OK, so they've got no work. So bucketloads of them will go off and do something else.

Then there'll be a shortage, so the Government will encourage more people to train as Home Inspectors.

Then another party will win a General Election and abandon the HIPS policy, so they'll all be out of work.

Round and round the mulberry bush....

When Governments start fiddling with markets, chaos ensues. The system we've had up to now is far from perfect, but (to misquote Churchill) "it's the worst in the world - except for many of the others."

Nemesis · Post by **Nemesis** » Tue 14th Aug, 2007 12:45 pm

Seventy grand a year though P - maybe we should train?

(No - maybe not.)

Penners · Post by **Penners** » Tue 14th Aug, 2007 1:04 pm

At £12,000 a pop, I might give that a miss.

For that sum I reckon I could train to be a brain surgeon. What on earth can be involved in the training to cost that much?

And I wonder who "promised" them £70k p.a.

Don't be thick, Penners. The person who promised them £70k a year is the same person who charged £12k for the training.

Nemesis · Post by **Nemesis** » Tue 14th Aug, 2007 1:07 pm

Yes but Penners - maybe we have (say it gently... ) not got the qualifications to be brain surgeons. Besides we may be too old to train. It takes a few years I gather.

Whereas this...

Bring on the Bisto!

skier-hughes · Post by **skier-hughes** » Tue 14th Aug, 2007 2:14 pm

Penners wrote:At £12,000 a pop, I might give that a miss.

For that sum I reckon I could train to be a brain surgeon. What on earth can be involved in the training to cost that much?

And I wonder who "promised" them £70k p.a.

Don't be thick, Penners. The person who promised them £70k a year is the same person who charged £12k for the training.

A friend of mine, thinking of a career change and working in housing curently thought about this move, and in deed the people who trian you do tell you can earn that much...... don't quite explain how it gets there,a s there pricing odel for each pack meant you would have to work about 27 hours a day for 8 days a week!!!!!!!!!!

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