Cast iron range ID?

[onebaddaddy]

Hi all.
For the last month I've been removing, repairing and reinstalling the small cast iron range and repairing the clay brick fireplace in our new cottage. It's now all fully installed & works great.
But I can't help being curious as to whether it's period for the property or a repro.
There are no casting or makers marks except for one panel behind the oven, which has 1166 & 14 scrawled underneath it on it.
I'm fairly familiar with antique grades of cast iron, the look of old casting techniques and it certainly doesn't look like some of the casting seen on later stoves.
The cottage was built in 1819.

Any of the architectural antique or range aficionados have thoughts?

 

[Keithj]

My eyesight isn't what it was, but aren't there signs of lettering or patterning on the panel just below the fire? It may be artefacts from the way the metal has oxidised and been cleaned, or maybe someone wrote on it with their fingers while the finish was drying.

Who's got sharp eyes round here?

 

[onebaddaddy]

Sorry the pics aren't a bit sharper, I dont really do gadgets & have to make do with my terrible old iphone camera.
There is no lettering on the tidy Betty, just a hammered/pressed pattern.

 

[Penners]

There is no lettering on the tidy Betty

His name's Keith, not Betty.

There's an old saying: "If it looks like fish, smells like fish and tastes like fish, it's fish."

To my inexpert eye, that range looks, smells and tastes authentically original.

However, if an appliance like that is made to an old design, using the correct materials, and it functions the way it should, why worry about whether it's original to the building or not? It's a gem either way.

 

[onebaddaddy]

Ha ha. V good.
I'm with you 100%, it fits perfectly within the styling of the house, and yup it works like a charm(wifey's already cooked a few batches of bread in it) so I'm uber happy with the final result, bar the last few tidying up bits like dealing a last few cracks in the fire cement & a fresh coat of grate polish.
We were purely curious as to whether it's 'design' goes with the date of the property. I'm not particularly au fait with some of the decorative changes during the late regency era.
Wifey's totally besotted with the range, and we should have a few tons of seasoned hardwood delivered next wk ready to go in the store.

I'm in no way a purist, ie I like old stuff to show a few battle scares or adaptations over years of use, and we're appreciative of the fact that houses changed as peoples lives and the industrial revolution took hold.
Our previous house was late georgian canalside cottage which I restored over the last 7yrs, but now it's finished its nice to be getting my teeth into a new project.
I've already sorted most of our damp issues out, mainly the usual suspect (ground level & leaky rain works)
Just need to investigate our neighbours block paved garden, as that's the last place we are getting signs of damp, but that shouldn't be an issue, she's fab and all for saving old houses.
Plus she has a range too that was decommissioned when she moved in 10yrs ago, and she now wants me to sweep, inspect the chimney, and check her range over for any defects, with the hope of getting it going again.
All good so far though.

 

[Penners]

she now wants me to sweep, inspect the chimney, and check her range over

If that isn't a euphemism, I don't know what is.

 

[onebaddaddy]

Ahahahaa. How did I not notice that whilst typing.
Lol well she is a bit of a cougar so maybe I misread her intentions.

I was having a chinwag with her just, and she's having major damp issues(now now, no more double entendres please) the cottage adjoining hers has recently had some kind of waterproof coating applied, as the fella had lots of damp throughout the entire house(I suspect due to its upvc'd DG, central heating, vents enclosed in conservatory or covered)
Since it's been coated her house walls are ringing wet. Is it plausible the damp is creeping through to hers? I've said I'll have a gander at the flashing, pointing, shared chimney etc when I get a spare day.

 

[Penners]

If the party wall between her and her neighbour has become very damp since he had a waterproof coating applied to his side of it, then it seems pretty irrefutable that these represent cause and effect. What she can do about it is another matter, and I suspect that party wall legislation would probably have something to say about it. However, I'm afraid I know little or nothing about this law.

The further difficulty is the age-old "don't want to upset the neighbours" thing. Once you resort to a legal wrangle with a neighbour, things can often turn very nasty.

Maybe she could get him on her side if she asked him to "check her range over", instead of you. :wink:

 

[onebaddaddy]

I did suggest she investigate party wall leg, which she will endeavour to do.
The guy who had the house 'coated' seems quite incompetent reIY or problem solving issues associated with older housing, so I don't know how comfortable she'd be with him having a look.
As for upsetting the neighbours, I don't think that would phase her, she's a toughie.
Lovely, but very much an empowered strong willed lady. So if it's not a prob I can fix for her, and looks defo like a party wall issue/coating causing the damage, she'll do what ever is necessary to rectify it.
There's a lot of beams in the cottages, so it needs rectifying fast

 

[Moo]

There's a lot of beams in the cottages, so it needs rectifying fast

How old are the cottages? I've searched through your posts but, although I now know where you live and what an impressive number of interests you have, I can't find anything about your house.
How about some more pictures?

 

[Penners]

party wall leg

I've heard of tennis elbow, athlete's foot and housemaid's knee, but that's a new one on me.

 

[onebaddaddy]

Morning.
They were built in 1819, solid brick/lime mort construction, all interior walls are timber frame with lath infill.
Ours is the only detached, the other 2 are semi.
As its the wall where the stretchers go into the party wall that is her main prob, the timbers are starting to wet.
Its visible on the roof stretchers and the support beams in the sitting room for first floor.

Here's a few pics of ours

 

[onebaddaddy]

Oops Forgot this one.
The layout is pretty similar in all of them, although I do believe the house that's potentially causing her issue, has had some internal changes ie bricked walls replacing some of the timber framed wall.