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The membrane is certainly the one thing between the elements and the room below That's a shocking bit of roofing.88v8 said:
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This site is also free, and a wonderful resources for its users, whether its technology is old or new.paulb33 said:
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Penners said:
:roll:
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Kindly explain that remark!
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I think the site would be a better resource if users could post photos more easily. :?
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I'm with you on that. I actually think they look nicer than plains, on the right building. That is a dodgy bit of roofing on that one side you've got there! At least it's keeping the water out though.
A common mistake with the membranes under tiles is that people stretch them taught. They are supposed to sag slightly between the rafters/trusses - that way, any water that gets under the tiles can't get trapped behind the battens and cause them to rot. The roofer who did the main roof on my house pointed this out to me. The roofing on my garage was done whilst I was at work, and guess what, the roofers stretched the membrane taught. The instructions on the membrane tells you to drape it slightly between the rafters, but it was a bit late by then..... :roll:
The membranes are remarkable though. On my main house it was the only covering for a couple of months in winter, you could see daylight straight through it, feel a breeze blowing through it, but not a drop if water came in. It was a decent quality one - Proctor Roofshield if anyone's interested. The roofer showed me a cheaper one that he used for temporary covering, it was much easier to tear, whereas the Proctor stuff was really tough and hard to tear. Worth the extra I'd say.
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paulb33 said:
To paraphrase Mandy Rice-Davies, it would, wouldn't it. The clue is in the title :wink:
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:lol:
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:lol: :lol:LadyArowana said:
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Yes, an abuse of trust by the builders, whoever they were. The POs here were totally impracticable, I doubt they would have known a badly laid roof from a potted stilton, and this I not the first piece of botching I have come across that occurred on their watch.
Having said that, my expensive surveyor didn't notice it, and until now, nor did I
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Thankyou. Another thing I didn't know, and I wouldn't rely on my builder knowing either...and I don't know one membrane from another, so that's double bubble in one post
I shall raise a glass of sweet sherry to you all this evening.
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Yes, it would, but it is free.... this selfsame discussion went on, extensively, on another free site I frequent, more traffic there in a day than PPF in a year... the conclusion was that the cost of updating the functionality would likely not be justifiable, and if we made a fuss about not being able to do this n that, the site operator might decide to close it.
So we count our blessings on that site, and I bless the fact that amongst the missing functionality there, is headers and footers of repetitive self-preening mottos and photographs...
Ivor
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Well, I've been on here long enough to have noticed a marked fall off in PPUK traffic. Volume = greater resource. There are days when my amateur claptrappy pontification passes as authoritative statement on here.
There are free platforms better than this, surely.
What other site do you frequent, Ivor?
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Paul - I've been a member of this forum since the Friday before God was born. It's been my experience that:-
* Active membership comes and goes, rises and falls. Sometimes it's busy, sometimes you could swear that everyone's ignoring you (which in my case they probably are, if they've got any sense).
* Quantity doesn't necessarily equal quality.
* The forum engine does get changed occasionally. This php incarnation was introduced in - so far as I remember - in around 2005/6. So who knows...?
* Active membership comes and goes, rises and falls. Sometimes it's busy, sometimes you could swear that everyone's ignoring you (which in my case they probably are, if they've got any sense).
* Quantity doesn't necessarily equal quality.
* The forum engine does get changed occasionally. This php incarnation was introduced in - so far as I remember - in around 2005/6. So who knows...?
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Well it works fine for me! But then I have got a wind-up laptop, and my phone is from around the turn of the century.
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Oh no...we've only just got over the last change, let's not start that again! They'll be introducing one of these mobile apse things next and then where will we be!Penners said:
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I administer (or otherwise play with) three forums using this phpBB software. Most phpBB setups seem to be at least one or two editions out of date, but that's not a major problem because the later versions don't (on the whole) do much different. phpBB is free, although there are outfits that will try to persuade you to buy their services.
Posting pictures isn't one of its strong points. The best method is to shrink the picture to fit the page - scrolling pictures tend to misbehave - and use one of the freebie hosting services. I wrote some step-by-step destructions for another site, which I'd be happy to post here if people REALLY want...
Posting pictures isn't one of its strong points. The best method is to shrink the picture to fit the page - scrolling pictures tend to misbehave - and use one of the freebie hosting services. I wrote some step-by-step destructions for another site, which I'd be happy to post here if people REALLY want...
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Zebra said:
I'm mostly sour because its SUCH a hassle post photos. Likely its me.
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Really?
I'm decidedly low-tech anyway, I don't do smartphones and the like, but I just upload pictures to photobucket and then paste the "img" links into the post, or if it's just one small picture upload it directly. I'm really quite inept - well, more disinterested in learning about new technology if I'm being honest - in most things computer-related so if I can cope with it, I reckon anyone can!
I'm decidedly low-tech anyway, I don't do smartphones and the like, but I just upload pictures to photobucket and then paste the "img" links into the post, or if it's just one small picture upload it directly. I'm really quite inept - well, more disinterested in learning about new technology if I'm being honest - in most things computer-related so if I can cope with it, I reckon anyone can!
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Its me.
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Likewise.
Mind you, my phone is quite smart. It's a Nokia 5110 in a two-tone red/black leather case.
The membership of the other sites I'm on - mostly car stuff and financial - also waxes & wanes
Talking of financial, my bank website tells me every time I log on that it's best viewed with IE6,7, or 8.... or perhaps a pair of those bakelite stereo glasses...
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Presumably hauling a heavy, arched-roof, church niche around with us!worms said: